Quote from Michael Meallem on 1. March 2021, 4:42

Thats a great example and Thailand has faced similar issues with some of the key mass tourism destinations such as Pattaya and Samui island - I wonder if the covid-19 reset will actually make a difference in how the Thai government views tourism...

Quote from Harald A. Friedl on 3. March 2021, 22:12

Thanks Oana and Mike, well, those examples sound pretty much like good old Butler's life cycle: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.annals.2006.05.004

Richard Butler was acutally pretty innovative over the years reflecting about more complex prediction models integrating chaos theory

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.futures.2008.11.002

Well, certainly, Butler was not able to forcast social media, global networks such as airbnb and other dynamic factors of highly focussed growth... getting also highly at risk to collaps again after having reached a critical level of overtourism... Oh my god, again Butler...

 

Quote from Harald A. Friedl on 16. March 2021, 13:42

Quote from Michael Meallem on 1. March 2021, 4:42

Thats a great example and Thailand has faced similar issues with some of the key mass tourism destinations such as Pattaya and Samui island - I wonder if the covid-19 reset will actually make a difference in how the Thai government views tourism...

Dear Mike, what do you think about the following statement:

"Sustainability is a bit like learning for most people: It's exhausting, it hurts, very few people like it, but on the long run it's much worse without it..."

Quote from Michael Meallem on 17. March 2021, 9:23

Quote from Harald A. Friedl on 16. March 2021, 13:42

Quote from Michael Meallem on 1. March 2021, 4:42

Thats a great example and Thailand has faced similar issues with some of the key mass tourism destinations such as Pattaya and Samui island - I wonder if the covid-19 reset will actually make a difference in how the Thai government views tourism...

Dear Mike, what do you think about the following statement:

"Sustainability is a bit like learning for most people: It's exhausting, it hurts, very few people like it, but on the long run it's much worse without it..."

Harry - I love it...Its so true...but really the key issue for me is an ancient one....Humans generally dont do well with future benefit with present sacrifice - and to really ensure a sustainable future - this is what we will have to do

Quote from Harald A. Friedl on 17. March 2021, 10:03

Dear Mike, this reminds me at the Marshmallow Test (https://www.thoughtco.com/the-marshmallow-test-4707284 )

Do children prefer to have little things right now - or can they resist in order to get more later...

I think that this is a cultural thing. We are living in a consumtion society where we define "social progress" (= a chance to gain symbolic capital) as a rising opportunity to consume ostentatiously here and now;
funnily it is the result of the "Protestant Ethics", a thesis of the German Sociologist Max Weber (https://triumphias.com/blog/max-weber-protestant-ethic-and-the-spirit-of-capitalism/ ):

The protestant approach: Prey, work and invest in order to be loved by God.

The catholic approach: Don't give a shit, God loves you anyway (as long as you give enough money to his secretary in the Vatican): so live now, God will care for you...

Actually, I never reflected this idea befor: How far is sustainability related with this Protestant ideology, how far with the catholic ideology.... Hmmm

But what iterests me more: What motivates Thais to invest into the Future? Family?