Quote from Michael Meallem on 7. August 2020, 5:56

Thailand's tourism operators used to talk about a "travel bubble" but that now seems unrealistic given the resurgence of the virus around the world. The latest idea is called " Safe and Sealed". Seems idea is to offer package tours?

"Safe means we will select only guests from a city with a record of no infections for at least 30 days, and they can travel under the sealed conditions provided by tour operators in designated hotels and provinces that agree to welcome those tourists,"

The cost of the package would be 100,000 baht per person, higher than the average price of 50,000 baht before the pandemic - not sure this is realistic!

https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/1963463/safe-and-sealed-brings-hope-for-tourism-rally

Quote from Harald A. Friedl on 12. March 2021, 13:52

Dear Michael, by observing now the situation about vaccinations, could this come close to this idea?

Getting back to chartering flights with only vaccinated tourists? What do you think, and what about #Oana Driha?

Thanks, bye, Harry

Quote from Michael Meallem on 15. March 2021, 9:57

Quote from Harald A. Friedl on 12. March 2021, 13:52

Dear Michael, by observing now the situation about vaccinations, could this come close to this idea?

Getting back to chartering flights with only vaccinated tourists? What do you think, and what about #Oana Driha?

Thanks, bye, Harry

Completely unrealistic and failed - Thailand has developed numerous ideas such a Golf quarantine / villa quarantine and others - all have attracted insignificant numbers of tourists

Quote from Harald A. Friedl on 15. March 2021, 14:53

My thesis: It doesn't fit with the idea of holidays abroad: freedom, paradise...
To get from one lockdown to another quarantine doesn't sound like fun, sounds like a contradictive, unreflected idea...

Quote from Harald A. Friedl on 17. March 2021, 8:35

Quote from Oana Driha on 21. July 2020, 10:55

As mentioned during our 2nd TOURIST Conference (https://www.conftool.net/sustainable-tourism2020/index.php?page=browseSessions&path=adminSessions), COVID-19 affected world economy as well as world tourism. Brian King was mentioning domestic markets and travel bubbles as an option to revire tourism. Is this the way for every country independently on the location, type of tourism, relevance of tourism industry within national economy, etc.?

Dear Oana, what about travel bubbles in Spain? As you described the situation today, Spain seems to be in a terrible dilemma between the return of another wave due to Spanish lifestyle - and the immediate need for customers... (as anybody). What do you think?

Quote from Michael Meallem on 17. March 2021, 8:40

Harry - I think many countries are caught between a rock and hard place in regards to this....Thailand has been talking about this since the begining but no progress has been made

Quote from Harald A. Friedl on 17. March 2021, 8:57

Dear Mike, well, to bring the situation to a point: it is crisis...
Allow me some different approach: I am doing much easier as a philosopher. A philosophical approach is to see the things, the world, problems from a meta-perspectives in order to find a new way to see the world: developping a new approach.
Or expressed in a more entrepreneurial way: the find chances in changing environments.
Big disadvantage: It costs a lot of energy as it implies learning, a lot of learning. And learning hurts... I think, that this is the main reason while many (important) people (such as polititians) prefer to keep the things as they are while waiting for better times...
This impression is at least got from Austria...

Quote from Natascha Dockal on 17. March 2021, 10:08

I agree - change is tedious, costs energy, time and often a lot of money. It is maddening. You talk your head off, have the best arguments on your side, and can clearly show that the other person is wrong - and yet he doesn't budge a bit from his opinion. On the contrary, the other person often even feels strengthened. Everything remains the same. A solution approach: The pressure to suffer must increase so that the step toward change is correspondingly "easier. In addition, the persuasion work should focus on the common goals. A current example from my research work: I would like to convince the management of a luxury hotel of an environmental quality seal as a profit-supporting measure - but I won't get far if I work with accusations and feelings of guilt; instead, I have to find out what is important to the manager and the employees, where their suffering pressure is and how I can address this appropriately so that they see sustainability as a meaningful strategy instead of laborious change and investment.
Two related articles:

https://stanfordmag.org/contents/how-to-convince-someone-it-s-easy-being-green-nitty-gritty

https://www.fastcompany.com/3049540/5-ways-to-convince-people-to-actually-do-something-about-climate-change

Quote from Harald A. Friedl on 18. March 2021, 8:54

That's very nice, thanks Natascha, and it sounds quite familiar to me 😉
Actually I am working now for Scientists for Future, and there together with Parents for Future. Here it is always the same approach of convinced people: They tend to see the world only from their own perspective - without "walking in the Moccasins of the other person for some miles"...
But this is only the one thing. The other is our deeply embedded conviction that we could "change" the world by simply finding the "Holy Stone of Wisdom" or something like that, the perfect solution.
For a complex world, only complex solutions exists, as people, perspectives, needs, desires and circumstances are diverse and complex. For activists this is hard to accept...